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Tuesday at 06:30 PM
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Thursday at 01:13 AM
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Hi Angela S,

thanks for your question.

Your sentences mean something different from the Italian one.

In English, there isn't a direct translation that conveys the same meaning. "Would be" is just there to show that in Italian the conditional is needed.


When using the conditional in this way, you want to express your doubts.

I guess the correct translation would just be "They SAY the president IS an honest person" in English, but in Italian, the meaning of "dicono che SAREBBE" and "dicono che รˆ" is slightly different.


Dicono che รจ [literally: they say he is] -> neutral reference to what people say

Dicono che sarebbe [literally: they say he would be] -> you have doubts about what people say. People say that, but you're skeptical.


I hope this makes sense!


Valentina

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Angela S
Wednesday at 03:21 AM
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(Re example from 'lesson notes') :


"Dicono che il presidente sarebbe una persona onesta."

English : "They SAY that the president WOULD be an honest person." (bad English, no one would say this, does not make sense)


In English, one might say "They SAID that the president WOULD BE be an honest person." (suggests we have been lied to)


or one might say ""They SAY that the president WILL BE an honest person." (we are waiting to find out)


Do either of these convey the meaning of the Italian? If not, then what does it mean?


Thanks!

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Wednesday at 05:02 PM
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Hi everyone,


thank you for posting!


@larry lillie, you are correct! the most faithful translation for "sarebbe venuta" is "would have come" :thumbsup:

The English "was coming" doesn't communicate the uncertainty. Unfortunately, it's not an easy fix, so, please forgive us for the inaccuracy.


@DOVREBBE ESSERE, "sarebbe" wouldn't sound natural in that sentence, so "dovrebbe essere" is the correct version! :smile:


Grazie,

Ofelia

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larry lillie
Sunday at 03:23 AM
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In the dialogue we have "Valeria mi ha scritto che sarrebbe venuta" and translated as "she was coming",

Why was the past conditional (would have come) used here? I would have said STAVE VENENDO/ARRIVATO.

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Wednesday at 09:36 AM
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Hi Beverly,


"ce la facciamo" comes from "farcela", which is made of "fare + ci + la". It's more a colloquial word and can be substitute by "riuscire a", meaning "to manage to".

Please find more information in this lesson: https://www.italianpod101.com/2012/02/14/upper-beginner-4-can-you-manage-some-light-exercise-in-italy/


Grazie e ciao!

Ofelia

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Beverly A. Gee
Monday at 09:52 PM
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could you explain the grammar in the phrase ce la facciamo? does ce mean us in this phrase? why use la instead of lo? thanks!

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Tuesday at 03:37 PM
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Hi Brenda Kenny,


Thank you for posting!

We have to say "Ti presento", because the subject is "io", "I", and the whole sentence literally means "I introduce to you my friend Valeria".

On the other hand "ti presenti" means "you introduce to yourself", or "you introduce yourself", depending on the context.


I hope this helps!

Thank you,

Ofelia

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Brenda Kenny
Monday at 01:09 AM
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Per favore puรฒ spiegare - 'ti presentO la mia amica Valeria' - perchรฉ non 'ti PresentI la mia amica Valeria' ?

GrazieBr

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Monday at 08:42 PM
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Grazie Luca! :grin:


And yes! it is right! :thumbsup:

Si! e' giusto!


A presto!

Ofelia

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Luca Deon
Monday at 07:37 PM
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Another great lesson ;)

Really looking forward to move on to the next series too in 6 lessons!


Luca


PS- I this right?-

'Viene qualche vostra amica?'

Viene= because it is 3rd person singular of verb venire (for a girl).

Qualche= Some for singular objects

Vostra= He is talking to both Elena and Anna?

Amica= Friend in singular due to 'Qualche'